rapture time - The Rapture And The Resurrection

"THE TIME OF THE END"

                    The Rapture And The Resurrection

INTRODUCTION

1. Unique to premillennialism is the idea of a secret rapture, along
   with several resurrections...
   a. The rapture refers to the "catching up" of believers at Christ's
      return
   b. Which involves the first of several resurrections of the righteous
      and the wicked

2. It is a doctrine not held by Orthodox, Reformed and Roman Catholic
   churches...
   a. But which gained popularity in the 1830s, and especially in the
      1970s
   b. Mainly through proponents of dispensational premillennialism

[Does the Bible teach that there will be a secret rapture, along with
several different resurrections?  Or does it reveal that there will be
just one resurrection of all mankind?  Let's first take a closer look
at...]

I. THE DOCTRINE OF THE RAPTURE

   A. THE ETYMOLOGY OF THE WORD...
      1. The actual word rapture is not found in the English Bible
      2. It comes from the Latin word raeptius, used in the Vulgate
         translation
      3. Which is a translation of the Greek word harpazo found in 1 Th
         4:17
      4. Which in most English translations is rendered as "caught up"
      -- Its common use today generally implies a belief in a secret
         rapture

   B. THE ELEMENTS OF THE DOCTRINE...
      1. Jesus will first come to raise the righteous dead and rapture
         the righteous living
      2. It is generally described as a secret event (millions suddenly
         disappear!)
      3. This will occur either before, during, or at the end of a 7
         year period of tribulation
         a. There is much disagreement among proponents of the time of
            the rapture
         b. Which suggests the Scriptures do not clearly teach this
            doctrine as some imply
      4. Following the 7 year tribulation, Jesus will return with His
         saints to reign on earth for a literal 1000 years
      5. Many have tried to set dates for this rapture - Wikipedia
         a. 1792 - Shakers calculated this date
         b. 1843 - March 21 1843 predicted by William Miller founder of
            the Millerites, the failure of Jesus to appear on this date
            after his followers had sold all their possessions was
            referred to as The Great Disappointment
         c. 1981 - Chuck Smith undogmatically predicted that Jesus would
            likely return by 1981
         d. 1988 - Publication of 88 Reasons why the Rapture is in 1988,
            by Edgar C. Whisenant
         e. 1989 - Publication of The final shout: Rapture report 1989,
            by Edgar Whisenant - More predictions by this author
            appeared for 1992, 1995, and other years.
         f. 1992 - Korean group "Mission for the Coming Days" predicted
            October 28, 1992.
         g. 1993 - Seven years before the year 2000. The rapture would
            have to start to allow for seven years of the Tribulation
            before the Return in 2000. Multiple predictions.
         h. 1994 - Pastor John Hinkle of Christ Church in Los Angeles
            predicted June 9, 1994. Radio evangelist Harold Camping
            predicted September 27, 1994.
         i. 1997 - Stan Johnson of the Prophecy Club predicted September
            12, 1997.
         j. 1998 - Marilyn Agee, in The End of the Age, predicted May
            31, 1998.
         k. 2000 - Many "millennial" predictions.
         l. 2006 - Many predictions for June 06, or 06/06/06
      -- The doctrine of a secret rapture has been used to manipulate
         many people

   C. THE EXAMINATION OF THE DOCTRINE...
      1. Passages offered in support of the doctrine
         a. Jesus' words to comfort His disciples - Jn 14:2-3
         b. Paul's description of the resurrection - Php 3:20-21; 1Co 
            15:49-55
         c. Paul's writing to comfort and warn the Thessalonians - 1 Th
            4:13-18; 2Th 2:1-7
      2. None of these verses necessarily exclude a resurrection of the
         wicked at the same time
         a. They simply focus on the hope of the righteous
         b. The Bible teaches one resurrection, not many (see below)
      3. The Bible does not teach a silent rapture - cf. 1Th 4:16
         a. There will be a shout
         b. There will be the voice of an archangel
         c. There will be the trumpet of God
      -- The concept of a secret rapture, separate and apart from the
         resurrection of the wicked is simply not taught in the Bible

[As further confirmation, let's now focus our attention on...]

II. THE DOCTRINE OF THE RESURRECTION

   A. AS TAUGHT BY PREMILLENNIALISTS...
      1. All premillennialists teach at least two resurrections:
         a. The resurrection of believers at the beginning of the
            millennium
         b. The resurrection of unbelievers at the end of the millennium
      2. Dispensational premillennialists add even two more:
         a. The resurrection of tribulation saints at the end of the
            seven-year tribulation
         b. The resurrection of millennial saints at the end of the
            millennium
      -- Premillennial theory requires more than one resurrection

   B. AS TAUGHT BY THE BIBLE...
      1. There will be one resurrection of believers and unbelievers
         occurring together
         a. As taught by Jesus - Jn 5:28-29
         b. As believed by Paul - Ac 24:14-15
      2. Believers will be raised at "the last day" - Jn 6:39-40,44,54
         a. Not several times (pre-trib, post-trib, post-mil, etc.)
         b. Not several days, years, or 1000 years before "the last
            day"!
      3. Passages offered in support of several resurrections do not
         necessarily teach what the premillennialists say they do
         a. E.g., 1Th 4:13-16 concerns itself with the resurrection of
            the righteous, but that does not demand that the wicked are
            not being raised at the same time
         b. E.g., Re 20:4-6 describes a resurrection of "souls", not
            bodies, and the reigning with Christ is likely to occur in
            heaven, not on earth - cf. Re 2:26-27; 3:21
      -- The clear teaching of Scripture describes just one resurrection

CONCLUSION

1. The doctrine of the rapture has been misrepresented by the
   premillennialists...
   a. The righteous will indeed be "caught up" to be with the Lord
   b. But it will not be a secret or silent event

2. The doctrine of the resurrection has mangled by the
   premillennialists...
   a. There will be a resurrection of the righteous and the wicked at
      the last day
   b. Not several resurrections, separated by years before the last day

3. If we allow the clear teachings of the Bible to guide us in our
   study...
   a. Not forcing our interpretation of difficult prophetic passages
      upon them
   b. We are less likely to get carried away by fanciful theories that
      have failed time and again

May the words of our Lord motivate us to be ready for His coming...

   "Do not marvel at this; for the hour is coming in which all who
   are in the graves will hear His voice and come forth those who
   have done good, to the resurrection of life, and those who have
   done evil, to the resurrection of condemnation." - Jn 5:28-29

US, Pakistan Near Open War; Chinese Ultimatum Warns Washington Against Attack

http://tarpley.net/2011/05/21/us-pakistan-near-open-war-chinese-ultimatum-warns-washington-against-attack/

“Any Attack on Pakistan Would be Construed as an Attack on China”

Missouri officials say tornado killed at least 89

Missouri officials say tornado killed at least 89 (AP)

comet of great warning = comet of rapture?

If the reasoning below is correct, then the comet of the warning that will signal it for us, and the sun eruption, should be called comet of the rapture. There are many comets every year, the next one is visible on June 1st (by telescope, but it may explode as Holmes). Of course, Elenin in September-October. Indeed such a big event should be marked by celestial movements. We already gave reasons why the NWO (illuminati etc elite) will warn us in advance, but at the same time may lie about the real date. Thus it appears that the so loudly trumped Mayan calendar does not end on 12/21/2012 but on 10/28/2011.

Is the "catholic" warning a substitution for the "protestant" rapture?

First, the rapture is not "protestant" but an ancient belief of the early Church. Please check what St Ephraem the Syrian said. Seems he "copied" the modern evangelical theories, in his 4th century. There are others.

Then, the Great Warning is indeed abundantly present in catholic seers, but it is not found in the Bible, unlike the Rapture that has many references including the very word in Latin, in Thessalonians and in Revelation 12.

If we are to believe all those catholic modern seers, then we should ask some questions and try to find their answers, to fit what they say in the picture from the Bible. Unfortunately, in most cases the seers are reluctant to tell us more than they have already said.

Why for example, some modern catholic seers speak also of a rapture? And why others conceal most of their prophecies in "secrets"? If you have a secret, there could be everything inside. Including the rapture, the antichrist, and so on.

The seers tell us that in the Great Warning we will see ourselves as God sees us. Good, but what's next? What will we do on Day 2 after the GW when we will make a good confession (the best case scenario)? How will we be saved from the Antichrist that is rising? John Leary and others give answers, with the introduction of the Refuges. It is again not a new doctrine, it is what the ancient church also believed. The refuges are places outside the reach of the Antichrist. Whether in the wilderness (ancient), whether in supernaturally protected domes in holy places (modern), or may be even outside this planet. Those in the refuges wouldn't be able to communicate with those outside, and vice versus. They will live in self-sustainable areas.

Also in the Great Warning it is said we will experience the destiny of heaven, purgatory or hell, should we die at that moment, but we will be given a second chance. How about those who are for heaven? Why should they come back to Earth and experience the persecution of the Antichrist? Isn't it better for them to stay where they are - Heaven or another place outside of the Antichrist's reach, if they anyway deserve the heaven at that moment? Why should God risk them to the temptation? Remember the Philadelphia church in Revelation that alone is saved from the great temptation that will come upon the entire world.  Is it possible then the Great Warning itself to be a rapture for some people?

We don't say there isn't such thing as Great Warning (because it would mean to assume all those seers are false or deluded via microwaves, and we know that at least some are authentic). But we think that under that acceptable term is hidden much more, that otherwise would have been forbidden. We believe the seers tell us only a limited picture, and we always should check the Bible whether it corresponds to it, especially the prophecies of Revelation and Daniel. The technology exists to alter the mind and to have false visions. It doesn't mean all seers are influenced, but be careful when there are apparently fake apparitions. Like the so called "holy love" that are given broad platform and who don't warn the people of anything of the above, like antichrist or refuges. The ideal way for the coming great delusion under the disguise of a fervent "catholicism" that even "opposes" to a certain limited extend the mainstream line, and thus becoming "attractive" for the unsatisfied devotees who are indeed fervent, but...not thinking with their own heads.

It is not strange therefore we stopped publishing most of the messages. We are no more sure who is who. We expect the promises of the Bible, and if there are messages that support that, they are more than welcome to be believed.

Bath Salt Abuse

 Bath Salt Abuse
A substance that has unexpectedly appeared on the shelves at tobacco shops and drive-thrus has transformed into a trendy -- and legal -- way to get high.
But Ohio lawmakers are attempting to join at least 10 other states in banning the substance marketed as a "bath salt." The element has a different chemical composition than the aromatic salts meant to be poured into the tub.
Bath salts are sold for up to $80 each in plastic bags the size of tea bags and in canisters the size of a quarter with a simple warning -- "Not for consumption."
"You could go to Bath and Body Works and get a lot of bath salts for $78. Right away, it makes you think something isn't right here," said Heath Jolliff, associate medical director for the Central Ohio Poison Center. "People are using this for its stimulant effects."
In most cases, bath salts contain mephedrone, a synthetic derivative of the natural amphetamine cathinone, which provides effects similar to those of cocaine, he said. Some bath salts have used other derivatives as well.
Bills to ban six derivatives of cathinone were proposed in both chambers of the Ohio legislature. The House version of the bill was introduced to the Health and Aging committee this month, but the Senate version likely won't be tackled until the state budget is complete.
"I think that the marketing is designed for a group of people that understand that it's a drug. For instance, somebody like me who may have walked into one of these stores may think it's a wonderful present for Mother's Day, not knowing it's quite different," said state Sen. Eric Kearney, D-Cincinnati, who sponsored the Senate bill that seeks to ban bath salts. "People who are familiar with the drug culture would know."

Powerful effects

Emergency room patients who have taken bath salts have shown high heart rates, hallucinations, agitation and prolonged paranoia, Jolliff said.
"I think this drug is going to burn itself out because it's rare to see anything on the Internet of positive effects from this," he said. "Every case we're seeing is negative effects."
Mansfield law enforcement officials called a news conference this week to educate people about the dangers of bath salts, which have been labeled a local epidemic.
Earlier this year, the methamphetamine unit of the state Bureau of Criminal Investigations was called to Delaware County to investigate a mobile meth lab, but the driver actually was cutting bath salts to be sold out of his trunk, said Special Agent Scott Duff, who runs the meth unit for BCI.
Bath salts users snort, inject or ingest the powder to achieve the high, Jolliff said.
Hospitals try to counteract the violent outbursts by rehydrating patients, administering relaxants and, in some cases, large doses of sedatives, Jolliff said. Because different bath salts use varying derivatives of cathinone, the immediate reaction is often unpredictable, he said. Some doctors have reported that some people who have taken bath salts experience paranoia for weeks after the initial dose, though no evidence of permanent damage has surfaced, Jolliff said.
Synthetic chemicals in bath salts do not show up on common drug screens, and the new drug was a major topic during an American College of Medical Toxicology conference in Washington, D.C., Jolliff said.

Rise in use

Little research has been conducted on bath salts, but Jolliff said he expects that to change as calls to poison centers continue to increase.
The American Association of Poison Control Centers began tracking bath salts in mid-2010 and recorded 302 cases nationwide that year. That has spiked to 2,360 cases so far in 2011.
Poison centers in Columbus, Cincinnati and Cleveland reported four cases in 2010, but that has jumped to 170 cases to date in 2011. The Columbus poison center, which covers much of central Ohio, has had 74 cases in 2011, but saw only one in 2010.
The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention last week published one of the first studies of emergency room visits by bath-salt users.
The report studied 35 people who had been admitted to a Michigan hospital after using bath salts as a drug and concluded that nearly half of the patients had a history of serious mental illness.
Although bath salts have appeared in central Ohio stores, research by the Ohio Department of Alcohol and Drug Addiction Services indicates they are concentrated in the Cleveland and Dayton areas, said Brad DeCamp, assistant chief in the department's division of treatment and recovery services.
But Kearney said law enforcement that he has spoken to believe the problem could grow in southern Ohio and are frustrated by a lack of regulation.
"Until we get some teeth, our abilities are pretty limited," Duff said. "It's kind of unfortunate that this stuff can continue to be marketed as bath salts, knowing full well that the people marketing this stuff and peddling this stuff know what folks, mainly kids, are doing with this stuff."
Bath salts skate around existing laws by including a warning that they are not for consumption, according to the CDC study.
"Classes of designer drugs like 'bath salts' are intended to have pharmacological effects similar to controlled substances but to be chemically distinct from them, thus avoiding legal control," according to the CDC study.
Duff compared bath salts to synthetic marijuana, which was legally sold as incense before it was banned.
"Obviously, people know what they're buying," Jolliff said. "I don't think too many people are buying this accidentally."

June 1 planetary alignment in crop circles

June 1, 2011 rare planetary alignment from crop circle in 2009 which includes besides the known planets, also an unkown object that may be planet X r a comet.

Rapture techniques. The problems the rapture theorists stumble upon

If your kid is missing tomorrow morning, will you find his / her clothes on the bed and know he was raptured?


I've always thought that the rapture ideas of "out of the shoes" rapture are absurd. Why - because it is like becoming a ghost. Like the Jedi disappearance when they die. Is the rapture therefore the holy death of master Joda? Some alternative esoteric researchers that I will not quote, think so - think that the resurrection is achievable via yoga techniques and results in disappearance from our space-time.


The entire idea of the rapture is we are with our bodies in contrast to the death that only our souls will be taken. And why should we leave our clothes then?

The problem of the rapture theorists is they assume an early resurrection, without the visible presence of Jesus Christ on Earth on the Second Coming. On one hand they have Paul's words that say "in a blink of an eye" we will be transformed. But then they omit the other part - at the time of the resurrection of the dead. And if they put the rapture there, then they lose the pre-trib or mid-trib moment. So they somehow take the words of Paul of transformation in a blink of an eye, and put them in the pre-trib / mid-trib rapture. Some say, also with a resurrection, while others omit that moment about the dead being resurrected.

It is clearly said in Revelation that the First resurrection will happen only at the Second Coming and not earlier. So if there is a transformation of the living similar to the resurrected body of Christ, then it should be expected at that moment - at the Second Coming of Jesus from Heaven visible to everyone. And not to a selected group of raptured people only who "will be first transformed, then taken to clouds, and then will meet Jesus there".

Are there earlier raptures therefore? This is another problem - the possibility of a MORE THAN ONE RAPTURE. Just recently some Bible researchers admitted that idea. Thanks God, we have it from a number of visionaries and their messages. With an earlier (pre-trib or mid-trib) rapture in addition to the Second Coming rapture, there is no need of the dead to resurrect first. But then the raptured people will not be changed in a blink of an eye either. The quote of Paul is no more relevant for that earlier rapture.

Revelation 12 speaks of the manchild caught up to the throne of God. That may indicate some resurrection-like transformation for the people who are a part of the manchild. Similar to what Mother Mary underwent at the end of Her earthly life. But the millions should not count on that, unless they are a part of the manchild.

The great multitude singing on the sea of glass mixed with fire in Revelation 15 is not martyred, has refused the mark, and is not transformed. The song is the song of Moses, unlike the non-understandable song of the 144000 in Revelation 14. That indicates physical exodus similar to that of Moses thru the red sea. The saved people are not on any place on Earth known as "sea of glass mixed with fire". Still  there is no transformation like resurrection at that point.


Elijah and Enoch

Apart of Jesus Christ and Mother Mary, there are other examples of a more understandable "translation". Many rapture theorists apply to Enoch and Elijah automatically what is valid for Jesus. Wait a minute! No one was resurrected before Jesus, so neither were Enoch and Elijah. They were in their mortal bodies, no matter if and how upgraded to live longer. No one went to the final destination of eternal heavenly realm, before Jesus on Ascension day - not even the prophets and Abraham. How then some say that Enoch and Elijah were taken to Heaven? They were not taken to Heaven but to another physical place, another planet. Physical Devices were used. Let see the description of Elijah taking - first he walks the whole day to reach the landing place, then the device called "chariot of fire" for lack of better words lands BETWEEN Elijah and Elisha (i.e. Elijah is not interdimentionally caught up in a blink of an eye to leave his shoes to the shocked Elisha). Then Elijah boards the flying device, and when the "chariot" lifts up, then he throws the cloak from above. All of that detailed description show a pretty physical boarding of unknown flying device with enough time, and there is no transformation of the body at least to the moment the device disappeared. If there was a such, it would be described among so many other less important details.

Enoch's rapture briefly mentioned in Genesis has an entire book that says much more valuable information -  the book of Enoch, that should be taken at least for a historic reference. As another apocrypha book that speaks of Mother Mary's assumption and was preserved in the church tradition. If we have the dogma of the Mary's Assumption, it is also thanks to that book called "apocrypha". Pope Benedict quoted the book of Enoch on his Easter vigil homily 2010. Is another update and clarification of our faith coming on its way? I strongly advice the research of Dr Chuck Missler on "Noah Days" and the return of Nephilim, though he doesn't discuss the book of Enoch, only mentions it.

Then why do the rapture preachers continue insisting on the idea that we will be "changed in a blinking of an eye" and will be flying in the air, taken directly to "Heaven" like Jesus, but before the coming of Jesus and the Resurrection He brings WITH HIMSELF? ("I am the resurrection and the life")

Because otherwise they have an Elijah-like rapture, not Jesus-like ascension. They need to add a chariot, that in modern terms cannot be explained otherwise than a spaceship. They have to admit the Angels have also certain physical properties manifested throughout the Old Testament (Raphael eats and drinks with Tobias and is indistinguishable from a human) and even in the new testament (Peter in prison - the Angel struck him, the gate opens by itself on the Angel's command etc). They have to explain also the Wheels of Ezekiel - different devices from the chariot of Elijah.

They have to explain the "HORSES" that the heavenly army of Jesus Christ comes with on the Second Coming. Jesus himself rides a "flying horse" despite He doesn't need a horse or spaceship - He flew to heaven by His divine power on the Ascension Day. Apparently the horses-spaceships are needed for the army of the Saints that will come back - for the raptured people who will come back. And also for the OTHER CREATURES elsewhere in the galaxies who will be a part of the Jesus' army.Not for the Archangels and Angels who are spirits and who showed they could come and go without devices or horses. Let also remember that Paul calls himself and his fellow servants "angels = messengers of God".

What most of the rapture preachers offer us to believe is little different from a death in Christ, it is not a real physical rapture. Good they reached the idea of a rapture at all, (idea not new but coming from the Ancient Church). But most of the theorists are stuck there in their 19 century theology. Let they be quick to resolve the problems: 1. multiple raptures, 2. rapture devices "chariots", 3. angels with physical properties who assist us as in the old testament,



It is quite possible there will be upgrade of the bodies on molecular and DNA level to be able to live as much as the first people on Earth if not more. That is different from the resurrection-like transformation in the blinking of an eye, that cannot happen before the Second Coming of Jesus Christ. It can happen indeed as with Virgin Mary, but only for a very limited number of selected people. To expect that everyone is there, is not quite realistic. Lazarus was resurrected, but in his mortal body and died again. Let therefore take the secure chariot of Elijah and do not put requirements to God what He "must" do according to our very limited understanding, because we may miss the rapture chariots of fire.

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Rapture May 21? The Pope just called the spaceships at 11:11 GMT

Pope blesses astronauts on International Space Station, Endeavour in first-ever papal phone call to space

BreakingNews Pope blesses astronauts on International Space Station, Endeavour in first-ever papal phone call to space - AP

is this kind of rapture we are supposed to expect, after the careful matching the papal call with the doomsday prediction, and even to the minute 11:11 GMT? Even the rescheduling NASA flight of the aging shuttle that serves now only the media purposes of Washington? May be not only Washington. Let they tell us more. Not after the real rapturte but before that.

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7 on a Shoestring

11:11 GMT May 21st - instead of a rapture, pope will call the space station

Why 11:11 GMT? Any symbolism sought? Apparently.
At the day when many expect Jesus Christ to come for 1. the rapture and 2. to start the judgment, in the precisely chosen symbolic 11:11 God's representative on Earth will call the Space. I would not be surprised if the last Endeavor shuttle's start has been delayed for that purpose, to channel the expectations of the people in that new direction. Because the retiring shuttles are no more than a propaganda tool, with the well known existence of TR-3B. What more is in the store? We continue watching.

I Survived the Rapture 2011... At least I think I did

I am trying to decide if I should schedule this to post after 6pm this evening or go ahead and post it now?! Perhaps I should not even write it. I mean Harold Camping is one "reputable dude" on this whole "end of the world" thing, right? Just because he "misread his own clues" back in 1994 should have no leverage on his reputation now, right? Surely he knows even more than God.
But about that day or hour no one knows, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father... Therefore keep watch, because you do not know on what day your Lord will come. But understand this: If the owner of the house had known at what time of night the thief was coming, he would have kept watch and would not have let his house be broken into. So you also must be ready, because the Son of Man will come at an hour when you do not expect him. ~Matthew 24:36,42-44
As a Christ follower I am most disturbed by all those that believe that this false prophecy is a Christian-led movement. Ummmm... no?! I do not know one person in my large circle of Christian friends that have jumped on this crazy bandwagon. If you know anything about the end time prophecies you know that after Jesus comes back to rapture all those who believe in Him there is a period where the Antichrist then rules the earth. Please do not generalize this as a belief all Christians have nor that this is any sort of Christian movement. I can assure you that our pastor has a sermon planned on Sunday with the intent of having a full sanctuary to preach to.
Then they heard a loud voice from heaven saying to them, “Come up here.” And they went up to heaven in a cloud, while their enemies looked on. At that very hour there was a severe earthquake and a tenth of the city collapsed. Seven thousand people were killed in the earthquake, and the survivors were terrified and gave glory to the God of heaven. ~Revelation 11:12-13 
The beast was given a mouth to utter proud words and blasphemies and to exercise its authority for forty-two months. ~Revelation 13:5
Well, reading this, how can I, as a Christ follower, believe that {1} Harold camping could possibly know {for certain} both the day and the hour of Christ's return and {2} that he can predict the destruction of the world just 5 months later? The Bible clearly tells me there is a 42 month reign of the Antichrist, and even then the world is not destroyed yet... there is a 1000 year reign where Satan is thrown into the bottomless pit. Besides, although Camping has mentioned the opening of the 6th seal which would bring about a great earthquake, what about the blood red moon or all the stars falling to the earth?
And I saw an angel coming down out of heaven, having the key to the Abyss and holding in his hand a great chain. He seized the dragon, that ancient serpent, who is the devil, or Satan, and bound him for a thousand years. He threw him into the Abyss, and locked and sealed it over him, to keep him from deceiving the nations anymore until the thousand years were ended. After that, he must be set free for a short time. ~Revelation 20:1-3 
I watched as he opened the sixth seal. There was a great earthquake. The sun turned black like sackcloth made of goat hair, the whole moon turned blood red, and the stars in the sky fell to earth, as figs drop from a fig tree when shaken by a strong wind. ~Revelation 6:12-13
AAAAHHHH! I am so confused! {Not really because I believe The Bible rather than some 89 year old man who has proven himself wrong before}. Besides, I found it interesting that he claims all churches should be abandoned and people should simply study their Bible and listen to his talk radio show. Really? Plus, I read that Camping says that those who are not saved and taken in the rapture will simply lose consciousness {forever} rather than spending an eternity in hell. What? So, their bodies just lie in an eternal sleep forever? Seriously?

I am having trouble understanding how this guy has gained such a huge following. I am not able to speak from an agnostic or atheistic view because my beliefs are different than theirs, but come on now, really? You're going to lie in a Sleeping Beauty type state for the rest of eternity while we are partying in Heaven? I just don't know about all that! I do know that I serve a mighty God who has carried me through many things. I believe The Bible is God-breathed and that its word is more powerful than that of Harold Camping. And, if you disagree that is perfectly fine... for now. But, at least if I'm wrong nothing happens to my soul after death... just saying!

Ok... I had to... just for fun! : )

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Psalm 83 - still to be fulfilled?

Psalm 83

A Song. A Psalm of Asaph.
 1 Do not keep silent, O God!
         Do not hold Your peace,
         And do not be still, O God!
 2 For behold, Your enemies make a tumult;
         And those who hate You have lifted up their head.
 3 They have taken crafty counsel against Your people,
         And consulted together against Your sheltered ones.
 4 They have said, “Come, and let us cut them off from being a nation,
         That the name of Israel may be remembered no more.”
        
 5 For they have consulted together with one consent;
         They form a confederacy against You:
 6 The tents of Edom and the Ishmaelites;
         Moab and the Hagrites;
 7 Gebal, Ammon, and Amalek;
         Philistia with the inhabitants of Tyre;
 8 Assyria also has joined with them;
         They have helped the children of Lot.  Selah 
        
 9 Deal with them as with Midian,
         As with Sisera,
         As with Jabin at the Brook Kishon,
 10 Who perished at En Dor,
         Who became as refuse on the earth.
 11 Make their nobles like Oreb and like Zeeb,
         Yes, all their princes like Zebah and Zalmunna,
 12 Who said, “Let us take for ourselves
         The pastures of God for a possession.”
        
 13 O my God, make them like the whirling dust,
         Like the chaff before the wind!
 14 As the fire burns the woods,
         And as the flame sets the mountains on fire,
 15 So pursue them with Your tempest,
         And frighten them with Your storm.
 16 Fill their faces with shame,
         That they may seek Your name, O LORD.
 17 Let them be confounded and dismayed forever;
         Yes, let them be put to shame and perish,
 18 That they may know that You, whose name alone is the LORD,
         Are the Most High over all the earth.

June 10

Rome will be most probably attacked on June 10 - the Friday before the great feast Pentecost and the lunar eclipse June 15. Rome should be attacked before the so called Great Warning. And if there are comets/other bodies to struck us around October, as some conspiracy sites say of Elenin and Nibiru, i.e. events associated closely with the Great Warning,t hen Rome must precede them. Our Lady in Anguera said it would happen on a lunar eclipse and a great feast. A Friday will be remembered forever, too. 
Will there be war before? In fact Rome is attacked by unknown "men with big beards" (Muslim terrorists?) and unknown invading army, it is almost destroyed with few survivors (nuclear bomb?). It is easy to imagine one or more of the missiles that Khalezov talks about, given in the hands of people like Gaddafi. The chaos following will be enough for the implanted in advance "refugees" in Italy to surprisingly turn into mujaheddin. As the Somali fishermen turn prates when a rich ship comes nearby, and they are notified in advance mysteriously.

Moreover, if the antichrist is to rise on 6/6, one of his first tasks will be to take over Rome, where he will rule from according to the prophecy of Our Lady in La Salette and others.

Is our rapture beforehand? Only God knows.  But by now it is clear we are already inside the Tribulation first part. Whether the midpoint will be around 12/2012, we don't know. Israel had its covenant for long enough time.

Our Lady warned Rome for an entire year 2008 with 150+ messages

5 January, 2008. Message from Our Lady of Peace, Anguera, 2939 Dear Sons and Daughters, a war will explode on Rome and there will be few survivors. He who is against Christ will bring suffering and sorrow to all Europe. The throne of Peter will be empty. Tears of pain and weeping of lamentations will be seen in the Church.

10 January, 2008. Message from Our Lady of Peace, Anguera, 2941 Dear Sons and Daughters, the church of My Jesus will carry a heavy cross. Many consecrated persons will live the anguish of one condemned. The blood of many consecrated persons will flow in the streets and plazas like water from the rain. The church will suffer great attacks.

The one who could have been Peter will become Judas. He will open the doors for the enemy and will make men and women of faith suffer.

The evil action of terrorists will cause great destruction to the sanctuary. The Church of My Jesus will drink the bitter cup of pain. 



a great multitude will march and furiously provoke great destruction. They will destroy the city of seven hills (Rome) and occupy the throne of Peter

 The sons of the lion will act furiously against the house of God.
(lion = osama ???)



The devil will dominate many consecrated souls with pride and envy, and the faithful will be deprived of the sacraments.

My Jesus was betrayed by one of His chosen, and delivered to the enemies. The day will come when His Church will be betrayed by one of those chosen to defend it. The enemy will have great strength because of the support of many consecrated persons. Behold the time of the great spiritual battle for the church. Know that despite the damage the opposition will cause, the church will never be overcome. The church will remain alive and strong in the hearts of the faithful.


An army will furiously head towards Rome. Churches will be burned and many holy places will be destroyed.

when the snake from the east heads for Rome, the moment of agony for the church has come. It will fell great pillars of the church with its tail.    

http://expectingtherapture.blogspot.com/2009/11/we-cannot-repost-52x3-159-messages-ehre.html 

Arab spring revolutions come to Europe

BreakingNews Live video from Madrid's Puerta del Sol square. Govt seems unlikely to enforce demonstration ban as protests continue.

make difference between Israeli politics and people who are still chosen by God, together with us the Christians

we Christians are all chosen by God. So are the Jewish people in a certain way, according to St Paul. We hope many of them will accept Jesus soon, to open the gate for the Second Coming. Also there will be raptured among them - 144 000. Do not restrict them only to the Jews living in Israel today - there are many more tribes that we don't know where they are.

Netanyahu: No return to 1967 borders

 AJEnglish  Netanyahu: No return to 1967 borders: Israeli leader says Obama's call for future Palestinian state based on 196...

Does it mean Obama is not the antichrist who will bring the covenant to Israel? It means nothing. We know how often the Middle East policy have been changed, from all sides. And in a certain way, Israel is already in a covenant with America and the other world powers, if we look for a such to be found. We keep watching.

So, have you noticed that the "changes are a coming?"


Yesterday marked one month since I wrote about making some changes. After looking over the list of goals I can now cross off #1. You can look at my archives and see that my blogging has become a daily event and I am getting back to the core of my original intent {sorta}. I did notice yesterday that I have not been "writing" much because I have been so busy trying to market the site. This means copying and pasting some deals for a quick post have become easier than writing one. That makes me sad. Thus, today I am writing down my thoughts!

Taking my blog to the next level means there are some changes that have to be made. I redesigned the header {again} and cleaned up the sidebar a bit. Yesterday I finally bought my own domain name {www.7onashoestring.com}! That was just the first step towards going "big time!" HeeHee! Next I plan on going to a self-hosted Wordpress format. Blogger has been great to me for the past 4 years, but I believe the time has now come to move on! I am praying the transition goes smooth and nothing is lost or broken in the move. {I have this same fear when we make a physical move. Hmmmm...} Anyways, look for those changes soon! I am such a big baby about spending any amount of money, no matter how small, so I am trying to justify the cost of self-hosting with money that my blog can bring in to pay for it. Every "one" must pull their own weight around here... this blog included! =)

Marketing has been a tough, but fun, job! Twitter has become my best friend and SuperDad and my kiddos think I'm crazy! I attend every Twitter party I can to gain followers and raise that infamous Klout score {my score has come up 37 points in just the past month which shows how hard I have been working}. Plus, those parties have brought me in touch with other great bloggers and who can deny the fun in winning cool prizes?! Just 2 nights ago I won a pass to the BlogWorld Expo in New York next week! How cool is that? I am looking for a sponsor for the travel and accommodation costs, but even if I do not get to go it was still an honor to win!

My Facebook page was given a bit of a makeover since I added a landing page to it last night. SuperDad was not thrilled with his picture being included but he is so awesome and just "goes with the flow." {Gosh I love him!} I am still trying to decide what I want to do across the top as far as pictures go, but I was pretty excited about getting the landing page up! Now to get more "likes" over there {**hint, hint**}.

And the most intense and toughest job comes in trying to "pitch" myself to brands. I am not one for talking about myself {you can read through my previous posts and probably tell that} but it has to be done in order to score some reviews and sponsors for the site. I have begun putting together my media kit and have a start on my PR/Disclosure page, but am waiting to get more demographics in before completing my full kit {there is actually a $5 Amazon gift card giveaway associated with just filling out the form}. It is actually pretty exciting watching numbers go up and down accordingly as I interact with others and get myself out there. The whole experience is truly pulling me further and further out of my little hermit shell. {Yay! I have been stuck in my own little world for quite some time!}

I am hoping to get more reviews and guest blogging invites {I have scored one with Our Milk Money that I am pretty stoked about} because they actually require me to write my own thoughts! When SuperDad and Prince W were reading my Loveable Labels post, SuperDad looks up and asks, "You wrote this?" Humph! Yes! Why? He then just smiled and said, "I know you can write. I am just impressed." Thank you? {It really is a good thing I love him!}

Nevertheless, the changes are "a coming" {why yes, I am from Texas} and I am pretty excited about them! I can't wait to see some of the hard work and sleepless nights pay off! My poor kids and SuperDad are missing me. My laptop and iPhone have become my constant companions and, again, that makes me sad. SuperDad says he understands, but I do not think my kids do {and shouldn't have to}. This weekend I believe will be all about my kids {at least when they need me to be involved... sometimes they are too busy for  me}. Keep watching this space because, yes, it is going to do something! =)


Blessings,
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GLP telescope test on the Moon


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20" telescope - the biggest one in their observatory
With that quality that nears the professional in smaller observatories they can discover easily a large ship of 20 km that the insiders speak of. Especially if they have the coordinates in advance. Surely Nibiru will be detected once it is visible
(is it now behind the Sun and all the talks of Elenin to be Nibiru crossing Mars orbit are distraction? Why is not visible then, as Jupiter is?)
Elenin was discovered with 18" telescope when it was far away.

Israel watch

AJEnglish Obama and Netanyahu poised for tense meeting: Israeli leader terms Obama's call for future Palestinian state bas...

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St Ephraem the Syrian speaks of the Refuges too

http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/profecias/esp_profecia01c1a.htm#3.%20St.%20Ephrem%20~

"But before these things be, the Lord sendeth Elias the Thesbite and Enoch the compassionate, that they may proclaim reverence to the race of men, and openly announce unto all the knowledge of God, that they believe not nor obey the false one through fear, crying out and saying, "A deceiver, O men, is he; let no one believe in him." But few are those who shall then obey and believe in the words of these two prophets.

    "Many therefore of the saints as many are then found, as soon as they shall hear of the coming of the man of corruption, shall most speedily flee to the deserts and lie hid in the deserts and mountains and caves through fear, and strew earth and ashes on their heads, destitute and weeping both day and night with great humility. And this shall to them be granted by God the Holy One: And grace shall lead them unto the appointed places.

JNSR asks for new consecration of Russia

The Future Life of God With Men
in a wording that perhaps the Vatican people will understand without becoming offended at the next apparition. Is Russia consecrated or not, or in half? We are still alive, that is one point in favor of "she has been consecrated". We can die tomorrow, and that is a point in favor of "she has not been properly consecrated". Better take the precaution and assure the most powerful army in the world is not on the enemy's side as it was during the Communism. Especially when we have now extraterrestrial weapons - 1.5 mile long flying pyramid and spiral-wormholes. I don't believe Russia will attack the tiny Israel NOW only to fulfill Interpretations of when Gog and Magog war occurs, but she can attack USA instead, without any prophecy. As WW1 and 2 erupted without apparent Biblical prophecy - still they were prophesied in Fatima and other apparitions.

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Will Obama Mid-East offer be accepted? And if so, could it be the covenant with Israel?
We are in the 63rd year after the restoration of Israel as a state. 7 years more give the Biblical 70 year generation. (David). Other numbers of one generation exist, we can eliminate the lower numbers of 40 years etc, and the higher ones would make it impossible for most of the people who were living in 1948 ("this generation shall not pass") to be still alive at the time of the 70th week of Daniel.

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Chuck Missler assumes 2 Gog and Magog wars



one in Ezekiel before the Millennium, and another one after the Millennium in Revelation 20.
He further explains that Gog is the king of the locusts in Revelation. For us that sounds as aliens. He calls them demons.

It is interesting that Gomer (today's Poland, Check - Slovakia etc) is also a part of Gog and Magog coalition and will attack Israel. These countries today are inside NATO and oppose Russia more than the Western members do, Poland is installing US missiles and was warned of becoming a Russian target. How would then these countries together with Russia attack Israel NOW, in the short period left before the Tribulation and the Millennium? We don't have the answer. We think it is more likely to have only one Gog and Magog war, not two. We might be wrong. But that means Russia and the allies described in Ezekiel from Poland (???) to Libya, to Turkey, to Iran, will attack Israel even before the Tribulation and will be stopped by God's power. If it is so, we will see it. Not we, but the left behinders, because Chuck and others believe Gog and Magog war is after the Rapture and before the Tribulation.


Ezekiel's prophecies may not be linear in time chapter after chapter, as Daniel's are not - Missler said it about Daniel. So Ezekiel Ch 38 and 39 may happen after the next chapters that speak of the Millennium. We don't know, only suggest. The Revelation is pretty clear for events before and after Millennium, and Gog and Magog is one of them.We don't know whether Ezechiel's Gog and Magog is before the Tribulation, but we certainly know from Revelation 20 that a Gog and Magog war occurs AFTER the Millennium.

Chuck speaks of a pre-requisite war won by Israel over its Arab/Muslim neighbors, psalm 83. I think that already OCCURRED in the Mideast wars since the establishment of Israel where Israel was always the winner no matter how many countries with how much stronger armies are on the other side. Check Wikipedia to see the ratio of weapons and armies, to realize it is only by God's intervention those several wars were won by Israel. But if that already occurred, and several times, then we should not expect yet another Mideast war that Israel will stretch from Euphrates to Nile. Israel controlled the entire Sinai to Suez canal. Euphrates / Iraq today is controlled by USA, The entire Jordan with the various warring tribes (Edomites etc) has a peace treaty with Israel, as well as Egypt. This was not a loss of territory, because the Israeli citizens were given special beneficial offers for tourism etc especially on Sinai peninsula. Virtually they got their promised land to Abraham, in terms of the use by the citizens. Are the formal borders what matters, or the real situation? The Israeli citizenship is one of the best in the world today, surpassing even the American. Countries like Spain and Brazil offer citizenship to any Jews who would want it. So in a certain way the Jewish people received even more than the promised land. And we are not speaking of their influence over the American policy that makes them even a superpower, because those are a few people after all.

Still, if we are looking for literal borders and Jerusalem to exercise direct control, then we should look at the Millennium for its fulfillment. If Jesus Christ himself comes to rule from Jerusalem, as many end time preachers say, then the Millennial Israel and Jerusalem will indeed be the center of the Earth, with land as much as promised to Abraham and more, with the nations bringing their treasures and so on. Then Gog and Magog rebellion at the end of the Millennium fits logically and we don't have to search it in another place. But if it happens now, as so many preachers say, then we should notice its start before we board the rapture spaceships.

If we have extraterrestrial players to manifest and exercise their influence shortly after the rapture, including in the so called 1st Gog and Magog war to be the locusts, then the current political map of the world will be changed greatly, and we may not be able to predict the events without knowing those new players. We already have some info of Draconians in Madagascar (Alex Collier) and inside Dulce NM (Salla report). The locusts come out after a celestial body hits the Earth.

I don't believe USA will be depopulated after the Rapture, and because of that is not mentioned in the Bible. Latin America's 500 million Christians-Catholics who continue to live in poverty despite their 500 year fervent Christianity and no permitted abortions, may be among the raptured instead of the North. The rest non-raptured people from what is left will be included in the One World Government as John Leary speaks. So they will be no more a major factor to be mentioned in the End Time prophecy.

The Antichrist may come from everywhere, since he will be empowered by demonic and extraterrestrial power. He could rise including from today's USA.

Russia expels Israel's military attache

AJEnglish Russia expels Israel's military attache: Israel's military attache expelled from Russia on suspicion of spying.

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Groupon: collective buying power through daily deals

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