Showing posts with label dispensationalism. Show all posts
Showing posts with label dispensationalism. Show all posts

My Dispensational Friend

Adam has been invited to this blog, but has declined. Even so Adam e-mails me comments. Here are some recent ones:

  • "I know that you are not crazy about dispensationalism, but have you ever the theory or idea that the seven churches in Revelation represent seven different periods of time (or covenants)? For example, the first church (Ephesus) could represent the Adamic period of time (or covenant) because it says: 'Remember the height from which you fell.' (Adam fell) And it also says: 'the tree of life, which is in the paradise of God.' The tree of life was in the Garden of Eden, which was a paradise on earth for a while. Then the next church (Smyrna) could be the Abrahamic period of time (or covenant) because it says: 'you are rich.' Abraham was incredibly wealthy according to Genesis 13:2. And it also says: 'suffer persecution for ten days.' Abraham sent his servant out to get Rebecca, and they wanted to keep her ten days (Genesis 24:55)."
  • Then another time Adam wrote: "I personally believe we are the church of Philadelphia in Revelation. The name 'Philadelphia' means 'brotherly love.' "
  • Adam furthermore writes: "The apostle Paul himself was a dispensationalist. How do I know this? Because he said: 'If ye have heard of the dispensation of the grace of God
    which is given me to you."' Ephesians 3:2 and 'Wherefore I am made a minister, according to the dispensation of God which is given to me for you, to fulfill the word of God.' Colossians 1:25
  • February 7, 2010 Adams writes:  "You know that I am fascinated with the rapture. There are three things that are associated with it: 1) a shout 2) a voice and 3) a trump. (1 Thessalonians 4:16) But did you know that the fall of Jericho in the Old Testament is also a"picture" of the rapture? You have 1) a shout 2) the voice of Joshua 3) trumpet blast "...the people will go up, every man straight in." (Joshua 6:5)"
Hopefully some of your out there will respond to Adam's interpretations.

Mark 8:12 and Luke 21:36

Keith, who will never post here he indicated, e-mailed me: "Like I say I'm a pan millenialist - I have faith it will all "pan" out in the end and find no reason to sift through contradictory hints from the Bible. Real answers are not there and Jesus even warned against speculation. Mark 8:12. Don't mean to be brusk, but that is what I think."

I was thinking about Mark 8:12 where Christ asked the pharisees, "Why does this generation seek a sign?" Yes, Keith, I should not look for the signs. Clinton, you are not a sign--see previous post. But, still, the study of Revelation promises a blessing.

Adam, who I have been trying to get to post because he is a pretribulation dispensationalist, e-mailed me "I tried to post but I'm not sure if it went through or not. 'Watch ye therefore and pray always the ye may be accounted worthy to escape all these things that shall come to pass, and to stand before the Son of man.' (Luke 21:36) Escape what? The tribulation!" He also e-mailed me about a dispensational conference near here that included LaHaye himself--you mean they just keep up these conferences noting the signs? What do they think about Mark 8:12 as Keith noted! Adam, I don't agree with your ideas about the tribulation. But I will keep a watch and keep thinking and reading and praying.

Earl is busy now and Bill is off studying other issues. Since I am the only one posting of late, I will take a break and concentrate on my other blogs. Hopefully someone will pick up the slack. But I am still enjoying the blessings of Revelation.

I preordered a DVD and will post when I view it. “The Late Great Planet Church: The Rise of Dispensationalism”, can be preordered at http://store.nicenecouncil.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=671

Israel in Prophecy or Just in the News This Week?

Chief amillennial spokesman Kim Riddlebarger writes in "A Case for Amillennialism": "Much like modern dispensationalists expect Jesus to reign over the nations in the future millennial kingdom, the Jews expected the Messiah to establish a political kingdom whereby Israel would rule over the Gentile nations. This explains why the Jews rejected Jesus as their Messiah. The New Testament, however, equates Israel's restoration, prophesied in the Old Testament, with Jesus' kingdom--a kingdom not of this world (John 18:26)."

He writes earlier in the book: "Another significant eschatological theme in the Old Testament is the promise that the nation of Israel will be gloriously restored in the distant future. Leading dispensationalists believe these prophecies refer to national Israel even though the authors of the New Testament apply them to the church."

Meanwhile I wonder how dispensationalists this week take Secretary of State Clinton's encouragement of two states for Israel and Palestine.
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/middle_east/article5840294.ece

Still wondering how it will all turn out and grateful for my faith, that is faith, that doesn't have all the answers.