Gog and Magog - now or after 1000s years?

As we watched the wonderful lectures of Dr Chuck Missler about End Times, we reached those that speak of Gog and Magog. He offers a new idea that before the war of Gog and Magog, Israel will conquer the entire region from Nile to Euphrates, as promised to Abraham. Then the coalition of countries leaded by Russia - Magog will attempt to invade the new and very rich Israel, and will fail because of God's intervention.

The second part is not something new. Most of the Bible End Time researchers including the Judaic scholars say that. But, do the Christian scholars consider more the Old Testament when predicting that Gog and Magog war is NOW? I say that, because they base their theories on Ezekiel mostly. disconnected from the rest. Some of them connect it to the Northern king of Daniel (the Antichrist). We already explained how the Northern King could be any of today's developed countries/regions that appear to be North from Israel or from Persia where Daniel was while writing his visions: EU, Russia, Far Eastern countries, Britain, even USA and Canada (over the North Pole). In the real world scenario, it is quite possible the Antichrist to rise from unexpected country thanks to the Extraterrestrial power he will have. Let say - Hungary, Romania, Korea. Our Lady in Anguera said that he (as a person) will come from the Southern hemisphere. A president in the North, born in the South?

However, the Ezekiel war called "Gog and Magog" or only "Magog" is not necessarily one of the Antichrist wars. It is not proven that Magog is the Northern King because if so, and if we assume Russia is Magog, then it would mean Russia should invade the entire planet except for the refuges. And this is something we do not see in the real world.

It is understandable that the Judaic scholars do not consider the New Testament and want to see Ezekiel war in action, so Israel to be saved by God again as in the Old testament, and to prosper after that. But it is strange when Christian scholars forget about one of the final chapters of the Revelation of Jesus Christ - 20:7-8. It is said quite plainly - the Gog and Magog war comes AFTER the 1000s years kingdom of Christ on Earth.

Who will live in that time in the land that is defined by most of them as Magog - today's Russia or even Siberia, we don't know. It is quite possible with the climate change and  the expected pole shift that land to become again one of the best in the world as it possibly was during the ancient Rama civilization - that gave the origin of the Indian and European nations, according to Zoroastrian legends. And according to the old Nordic legends the original land of the Nordic race was far North in what is today the Arctic. Recently a theory came out saying the Arctic ocean seabed rocks were composed by the remnants of TROPICAL sea organisms. As well as Antarctica that wasn't always covered with ice. So we may have pretty different geographical map after the 1000s years (thousands, not only one thousand, according to the original Greek meaning of the word "millennium"). What to say about the political map of that new world, after the Era of Peace, when there will be the perfect rule of the resurrected saints together with Jesus? The preachers only speak of Jesus, but they usually do not pay attention to the fact that there will be quite many resurrected, immortal humans on Earth (and in Space).  All we know today is insufficient to imagine that wondrous kingdom of peace. What will be the war after that, we have the short sentences in Revelation 20. It is won miraculously by God. And then comes the change of the Universe itself and its physical laws. We are still not in that moment.

I don't know what if seers see or hear about Ezekiel war coming today. It might be that I am wrong. Or it might be another war involving Russia (something I suppose too). Please check the blog dealing with that, in the sidebar. Anyway, we should remember that the words of the Revelation come first, before any modern seers. It would be good if the Bible preachers who are so proficient in the scriptures, also remember the fact the Revelation speaks explicitly of Gog and Magog, and that fact cannot be denied or substituted with interpretations of the Old Testament alone.

Augustine assumed practically what we will call today a time violation or a violation of the causality (time paradoxes) by saying the Millennium was already in his time. I would not comment further, moreover there are too many amillennial scholars - some of the most famous one, with quite many arguments. BUT IF THAT IS THE REAL CASE (only suggesting, I don't believe it is the real case), then we should almost automatically declare the  TIME TRAVEL is not only possible, but happening, already happened for Augustine and others. I am not competent to say that is the real case in our world, or in our timeline of the multiverse, if you will. Perhaps others are proficient - if they have that hidden knowledge. Anyway that is not the discussion of this topic.

I am afraid to add or remove anything from the book of Revelation - as it is written in it. If someone feels comfortable with changing the timeline because he has the undeniable proof it has already happened, then let go forth and tell us that proof. Recent Catholic eschatology writings make jumps and u-turns to explain the paradox of the broken timeline in the explanation of the End times (started by Augustine) that contradicts also modern prophecies, and even to say it is up to one's interpretation - that differs quite much from previous centuries. Thanks God, at least there is some development.

Daniel 7:25 (NKJV)
He shall speak pompous words against the Most High,
      Shall persecute[a] the saints of the Most High,
      And shall intend to change times and law.
      Then the saints shall be given into his hand
      For a time and times and half a time.

Hopefully, the attempt of the coming Antichrist to change the time will fail (for the entire planet). There should be a massive time machine also on our side - something like CERN for example, or another powerful enough collider or other device we don't know about. But the change should be finally manifested, so CERN PR is just as good for that. Hopefully, Our Lady will stop that attempt, as most likely prophecied in Anguera.

We didn't have our own Era of Peace promised in Fatima. Only after that we may expect Gog and Magog war. How about WW3 that Our Lady talks about in Lucia's leaked interviews? Again, I don't accept WW3 as Gog and Magog, as well as WW2 wasn't.